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Liānas Langas raksts par valodu.

Visu gaišu,
/P

Sveiki!

No Langas raksta:

“It īpaši pēdējā laikā, tuvojoties izprovocētajam referendumam par valodu, visu laikam dzirdam – latviešu valoda un kultūra ir mūsu valsts un identitātes pamatu pamati, valoda un kultūra ir tas, kādēļ šī valsts tikusi dibināta… Piedodiet, bet kur šiem postulātiem ir finansiāls segums? Vai tie gadījumā nav tukši un čaukstoši kā vecas lapseņu pamestas ligzdas bēniņos? Kādēļ izpratne par valsts pamatiem tiek imitēta, nevis pamati uzturēti un stiprināti?

Te vien daži skaitļi, kas raksturo Baltijas valstu rūpi par kultūras pieejamību – valsts finanses grāmatu iepirkumiem bibliotēkām 2012. gadā latos – Igaunijā 1, 17 miljoni, Lietuvā – 0,8 miljoni, Latvijā – 4 tūkstoši latu. Igaunijā ar Kultūras ministrijas un Kultūrkapitāla fonda finansējumu regulāri iznāk septiņi literatūras žurnāli.

Nupat VKKF padome sadalīja Latvijas Valsts mežu piešķirtos līdzekļus mērķprogrammām, izslēdzot no guvēju saraksta literatūru. Dīvaini. LVM ir valstij piederoša kapitālsabiedrība, tā apsaimnieko mežus, kas pieder visiem Latvijas pilsoņiem. Savukārt 17. janvārī publiskotajā Valdības rīcības plāna sadaļā, kas attiecas uz kultūru, literatūra nav pat pieminēta.

Tā taču ir aksioma, ka, izzūdot valodai, izzūd arī pašas tautas.  Varbūt, ka latviešu valodas statuss atgriežas 19. gadsimta vidū – jā, sadzīvē runājiet latviski, bet grāmatas gan nerakstiet.”

For 2012 Estonia and Lithuania plan to spend millions of dollars (USD) for the purchase of books published in their languages for their libraries so that they are available to the population.  But, Latvia’s budget is less than $8,000?

A line by line audit of Latvia’s budget is *long* overdue.

That’s right!  That “valsts” is to blame and its’ time to get rid of it!  Already 190,000 responsible citizens have voted for the education reform in Latvia they think is critical to Latvia’s progress and needs to be funded by all citizens.  Where are you, Latvian laggards?  Your resistance to Russian education reform in Latvia for the last twenty years has been most unconstructive and a pathetic waste of twenty-years progress.  Finally, with the “inspired” leadership of the SC Party dominated by exemplary individuals the likes of Lindermans with his PHD-worthy research in Criminal Science (who should have co-equal “respect” with Raivis Dzintars, according to Pyotr C.), all tax-paying citizens of Latvia may soon have the education reform they most need and that the valsts should pay for, including and foremost - co-official status for the Russian language.  No longer will Russians in Latvia have to tolerate trying to read books in Latvian they never wanted anyway (much less ever agreed to pay for -sheesh!- that, and the occupations museum, Birkert’s library, dziesmas svetki, Nov 18, etc.) since they will just conveniently buy books in Russian from Russia, especially about the history of Latvia.  Thanks to the ever-generous and thoughtful Putin, they may even get many for free, especially for the schools in Latgale.  Afterall, according to Peteris, “...very many Latvians have more in common with what’s east then with the West.”  I guess Peteris meant “Russia” for “what’s east.”  Anyway, as Peteris also wrote: “Russia will dwarf Latvia. That’s plain reality.”  Latvians don’t really need to take any action since the “valsts” is to blame and Education Reform will be brought to Latvia by the stork from the east.

P.S. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Linderman
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raivis_Dzintars

Quoth the Ambersun:

Finally, with the “inspired” leadership of the SC Party…

Could you kindly inform us when SC was ever in the Government, Ambersun?

Ai, nabadzīt—

«iet trīs krievi pa Rīgu un sarunājas latviski, pienāk latvietis un visi pāriet uz krievu valodu»...

Visu spīdošu & laistošu,
/P

Dear heart Peteris/Pyotr C., trapped in the body of a “Latvian” while his mind is filled with the thinking and the words of his old-and-new colonizing masters, and programmed to repeat the promise of “rosy” internationalists who are always looking for a little nation like Latvia to call home.
 
Peteris/Pyotr C. writes: “Could you kindly inform us when SC was ever in the Government, Ambersun?”  Pyotr, “the Government” is by and for and “in” and out of y’all of “the tauta,” as I am inclined to think you know in your brilliance.  What’s more, Lindermans is your fellow “tautietis,” as you define “tauta.”  What would make Lindermans and SC be “in the Government” to your “in the Government” liking?  Only in Latvia do I know “Latvians” like you to manage to speak “in Russian” while using the Latvian language.  On the other hand, Russians seem to speak “in Russian” even when you like to claim that they are speaking “in Latvian.”

...all tax-paying citizens of Latvia may soon have the education reform they most need…

La, la.

I hate to say it, ‘cause it’s rather ludicrous to bother—but there isn’t a snowball’s chance in Hell of Russian becoming co-official in such a vote. Even those who came up with it know that. That so many Letts get so freaked out as to (inarticulately) appeal to the courts against (what) is rather telling. The way many/most Letts have reacted to this almost makes one wish a snowball had a chance in Hell. Just for the fun of it. Spectacular weakness—and weakness of mind.

/P

What’s more, Lindermans is your fellow “tautietis,” as you define “tauta.”

Indeed. You can look up past posts to prove it. I am proud of Latvia for providing a grounded forum for destructive extremists. I think that is a root cause of the Republic. The fathers (oops—parents) of our country were extremists. Though Latvia is quite f’d up, we do have a pretty good record in terms of freedom of speech—horizontal time-codes aside. I will always be happy if Latvia gives refuge to every nut on the planet. It is our duty. And the defeat of their philosophies—that is our duty, too. On level ground. Not taking any sūdi. What did you have in mind? Jaņdžs’s alternative to democracy? Or are you big on Newt now?

How should I/we define tauta, Ambi? I am really loving my ethnically Latvian area. It seems far, far more Soviet than deformed and russified Dvinsk. Omigod! How could that be?

But, as always—let us get to the nitty-gritty. What do you propose? Do our fellow citizens not have the right to challenge (practically absurd) language restrictions? Do we not have a right to change the foundation of the Republic? Isn’t there a slight contradiction in this—you obviously hate the actual country, and wish it was like your country of the mind (may the gods help us). But ‘tis the very foundation that provides for this referendum. Why does it so horrify you?

Warm regards,
/P

And do please excuse me—it ain’t me defining tauta but the f’ing Constitution. Not to mention the jēdziens. If you have a better idea, I can wish you best and greasiest luck—implement it in Paw Paw, in Potawotami?

/P

Where is Mister Briliant Tautietis when he is really needed to critically evaluate the “brilliant” Russian education reform that was put forward by people “of his tauta” knowing that it cannot succeed but will waste valuable time and money and certainly not advance the “plural” togetherness he longs for?  Here, here, lay that master’s whip on those stupid Latvian serfs who can’t seem to do anything to your liking and probably don’t deserve their own country, with or without the Latvian language.

Pyotr is furious at the imbecile “Letts.” [*] “The way many/most Letts have reacted to this almost makes one wish a snowball had a chance in Hell. [i.e., Russian becomes the (other) language of Latvia].  Just for the fun of it [Whooopeee! Never had such fun since The Occupation!].”

* I think Pyotr means “Latvians” but from Wikipedia: Letts

Letts may refer to the following people:

  * Arthur Letts, English-born millionaire developer of Holmby Hills, Los Angeles, California
  * Barry Letts (born 1925), British actor, television director and producer
  * David Vanian (born David Letts, 1956), English punk rock musician
  * Don Letts (born 1956), British film director and musician
  * Goff Letts, Australian politician, as in the First Letts Executive
  * John Letts (publisher) (1929–2006), English publisher
  * Quentin Letts (born 1963), British journalist
  * Tracy Letts (born 1965), American playwright and actor
  * Winifred Mary Letts (1882–1972), English-born writer, with Irish connections

Letts may also refer to:

  * Letts, known also as Latvians, the indigenous people of Latvia
  * Letts nitrile synthesis, chemical reaction
  * Letts Filofax Group Ltd, British stationery manufacturer and publisher, best known for diaries and Filofax [1]
  * Letts, Indiana, United States
  * Letts, Iowa, United States

Can you answer the questions?

By the way—Liāna is a close friend, of wch relation I feel deeply honored; she’s good people. We disagree on many things; but I respect and trust her. 

Why don’t you ask her about what threatens Latvian? At one seminar, she said—English, not Russian.

Her point, tonight—this is the time to stop the destroyers of culture. Now. Do it now. That’s not the Russians, Ambi—that’s you. Us. Our government.

Only Latvians can reduce Latvian to a kitchen language.

Cut it out.

/P

Whenever forum traffic is slow, out comes “ambersun” to stir the pot with outrageous and provoking outbursts that never fail to get responses.  This time, though, it’s gone too far, and it’s clear what is actually going on.

Langa’s article argues that, even as we rally to keep Latvian the sole official language, Latvian is suffering from terrible public neglect, including a paltry sum budgeted for Latvian-language library books compared to the neighbors.  “Ambersun” posts, bizarrely, to the effect that the trouble is not the ‘valsts’, but Peteris C’s insufficient hatred for the Russians.

What actual human being would write such nonsense?  Nobody!  I’m convinced that “ambersun” was created by the LOL forum administrators as a trick to keep things from getting too quiet.  Andri, vai Tu tas esi?  Jeb vai tas bus Kaijas joks?  Palaidne tada!

Think about it. What actual human being would repeatedly demand that people who had moved from the U.S. to Latvia show their loyalty to the tauta while “herself” remaining stateside?  Nobody!

This also explains why “ambersun” falls silent whenever it’s “her” turn to explain what “she” has done to come up to the standards “she” sets for other people.  This happens so regularly that the only explanation must be that “she” doesn’t actually exist.

Obviously, whoever the hoaxer is doesn’t have unlimited time to compose these tirades from scratch.  Hence the repetition, ad nauseam and beyond, of the same insults and formula phrases.  Still, hats off to whoever thought of inventing a pro-wrestling style ‘villain’ to rile people up.  In this corner… from a latte-heavy zip code… weighing 300 imaginary pounds… it’s The Iron Trimdie! Grrr!

Доброе утро!

Khe!

Is “latte-heavy zip code” your phrase, or filched?

The Iron Trimdie is reportedly human, though. Some have seen her!

Visu labu,
/P, kura pasta indekss ož pēc kūpinātām zivīm…

Labrīt!

The phrase is mine, though derived from “latte town”, from a David Brooks article a few years back. Bet kūpinātas zivis, ņam ņam!

Hmm, can these sightings be confirmed? Every urban legend depends on a friend-of-a-friend who reportedly saw it.  And my theory explains a lot of things, including the Iron Trimdie’s odd nature:  instead of constructing a full-blown person (which even novelists have trouble doing well), our hoaxer seems to have taken a short cut and posted a list of the symptoms of Narcissistic Personality Disorder next to his or her computer.  Add some biographical snippets and college-town realia (Andri!), and voila!

proxy posting is feasible, but i think that Andris has bigger fish to fry…......................
supposedly, the beta group had unlimited access, except Robchik?

The Rise and Fall of the City of Mahagonny (finale).

/P

Peteri C., I’m confused. You don’t mean that’s her up on stage? Or is there something in Brecht’s libretto that pertains to this situation?

And Peteri B., I admit that’s a weak point in my theory, even if the LOL administration does benefit from increased web traffic (cui bono? - trying to be a good investigator).  Unless… unless it’s some sort of research project. Maybe someone’s studying how many times American Latvians are willing to have the same conversation over and over and over.  The argument—‘I’m a better Latvian than you because you don’t hate the Russians enough’—is presented by a completely repellent forum “personality”, so that there is no reason to post a response except to address that argument. How many times will this elicit a response?

The behavioral science here is really quite interesting. If you pretend to throw a ball to a dog, it will try to chase it the first few times, but will soon see through your shabby trick and stop responding.  We Latvian Americans, on the other hand, seem to never get tired of having the same discussion. Ever!  There’s definitely a publishable work in the data.