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Someone send William McIntosh, the D-Day Memorial’s president, a copy of “The Soviet Story”
 
Džons Brauns
Posted: 08 February 2010 05:50 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 16 ]  
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When I first watched Glenn Beck I thought he was a loony, but then I listened to what he had to say, and I also found it “surprisingly interesting and informative”.  It’s easier to demonise a person than to constructively argue against what he says.  No one in this thread who has dismissed Beck has made any attempt to do the latter.  In one program I watched he displayed the pictures of 30 former lobbyists now working in Obama’s administration.  Obama had promised that he would stop lobbyists working in Washington.  Beck also highlighted that Obama promised that he would not sign any bill with pork barrel add-ons, and yet he has.  Is Beck wrong on these issues?  Is he wrong on other stuff?  His condemnation of the results so far of communism is spot on, and the world needs to be reminded repeatedly.  Does anyone here disagree?

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Posted: 08 February 2010 06:17 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 17 ]  
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Even the White House fails to disagree with facts presented by Beck i.e. the red phone does not ring ! Who am I to disagree with the “brilliant” White House resident .An editor of a Harvard Law Review who published NOTHING of his own. Must be another Obama first! Talk about affirmative action at work !

Seriously, don’t fault the pres because he only reads , but can we at least kick the hell out of the teleprompter writer ?

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Posted: 08 February 2010 09:14 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 18 ]  
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The 102nd television advertiser to object to and no longer offer sponsor support to Glenn Becks program presented in their statement:

“We do not dictate what program is on when our commercial airs. But we do frequently evaluate our media purchases to ensure that the programs we choose match our brand’s target demographics and overall advertising plan. In doing so, we have chosen to not air our commercial during Glenn Beck’s program going forward.”

The resources available that present Glenn Beck as a very poor representative of core personal values - let alone his picking up some ersatz anti communist banner - are extensive. If Ogresdels feels that the White House is there to man the phones anytime someone taunts them with self serving straw men - well, that explains alot. Dump the teleprompter when you have a perfectly usable left palm for note taking Ogresdels ? You go girl !

If one feels that the legacy of criminal soviet occupation and Stalin’s massive crimes against humanity deserve the worlds attention - I’m all in with you.

If one feels that this important story is best served by being grandstanded by a cable talking head networks lowest common denominator - you cheapen the brand of what the 20th century Baltic experience is in every way.

“Any publicity is good publicity” cheapens the message.

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Posted: 09 February 2010 12:57 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 19 ]  
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I agree with Vidas. Next, we could hide Obama’s birth certificate in the pockets of our dead ancestors to draw the attention of more know-nothings to our national tragedy.

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Posted: 09 February 2010 09:20 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 20 ]  
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Kind of pointless debunking pundits since everyone has their favorites pro and con and it won’t make a difference but since Dzon asked. Just some random samplings.

http://mediamatters.org/research/200909300033

http://climateprogress.org/2009/09/20/congressional-budget-office-politifact-cbo-debunks-glenn-beck-climate-bill-postage-stamp/

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/arianna-huffington/glenn-beck-goes-after-me_b_445195.html

http://www.dickipedia.org/dick.php?title=Glenn_Beck

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ogresdels
Posted: 09 February 2010 08:04 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 21 ]  
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Anita, please give those three some desperately needed help! It’s just too easy to have them admit they watch Beck.The “red phone” was the bait and they swallowed with a vengeance.Please lead them away from the cut and paste and encourage (gasp) thinking.

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Posted: 09 February 2010 08:35 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 22 ]  
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Que the banjo/guitar contest song from Deliverance - to give Ogresdels’ posts the appropriate ambient mood.

Ogresdels, seriously ? Whats does a teabagger like you expect to accomplish ? Maybe one might get elected to some local mosquito abaitment board or appointed to some animal husbandry commission - but politically you’re totally irrelevant. Any election based on issues and positions exposes teabaggers as essentially impotent politically - your belief system is purely cemented in sloganeering and you have no sense of what it means to govern. Run for some local office and you’ll lose to anyone who even reasonably makes sense and doesnt have a tendency to drool at the mouth when confronted.

Glenn Beck is not a variety show that I watch. I cant ignore him though. As a Republican voter, I have to be prepared for fringe personalities such as yourself and Beck. I would have no reason to know Beck even exists except for trolls like you leaping out from beneath the rocks you otherwise live under intellectually.

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ogresdels
Posted: 09 February 2010 09:06 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 23 ]  
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Anita, please hurry! Vidas has gone off the deep end and hallucinates that he is a Republican .He also appears to have a fetish for tea bags and fantasizes about being politically relevant .Next, he may claim to be a Latvian.

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Aleksejs
Posted: 14 February 2010 11:18 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 24 ]  
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Found this a bit interesting, from the New York Times “The Truth Lies Somewhere in Between:

Over the decades excerpts from this and other similar ghetto movies have been used in well-intended documentaries about the Holocaust, which invests them with a level of factuality they cannot support. These images don’t reveal the whole reality of Jewish life in the ghetto during the war; they show how the Nazi propaganda machine wanted Jewish life to be immortalized. As the historian Lucy Dawidowicz once pointed out about a 1960s British film that used such visuals, there were no Nazi films about the secret ghetto schools, libraries and political organizations and none about the “valiant men and women, boys and girls” who fought in the uprising.

Ms. Hersonski’s documentary demolishes the truth claims of those Nazi images. To an extent, it is the ineluctable weight of the Holocaust that allows her to engage such questions at all. The issue of truth, unless Michael Moore is in the vicinity, is often left off the table when it comes to discussions about documentary cinema, perhaps because critics don’t have the time, resources or inclination for the requisite fact-checking or because the issue is at odds with our postmodern age, in which the truth is said to be conditional. Part of what is so gratifying about “A Film Unfinished,” which is often painful to watch, is its ethical insistence that there are true things in the world, and that it is necessary for us to know them. (It is also at the Berlin Film Festival.)

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Posted: 15 February 2010 12:01 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 25 ]  
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People, I personally do not see what we as citizens of the U.S. should be so outradged about. Just because this Mr. William McIntosh wants a statue of Uncle Joe standing next to his beloved former
commrades Roosevelt and Churchill, I ask, why not? We all do remember how compatriotic the west
was with Stalin when the Soviets tried their best to prove their innocense about who was responsible
for the Katyn massacer. Though of course it was never mentioned at the Nuremberg Trials, the Soviets
never had to pay for this outradges act.
Why not allow Stalin to stand along side his compatriots? If one has the internet then I ask for you to
type on Opperation Keelhaul. It was an opperation that was started by Englands Anthony Eden and
put into full force by F.D.R. Some of you may remember that at the Normandy invasion of France,
allied soldiers didn"t just take in German P.O.W. soldiers but they as well took in Russian and Ukranian
soldiers who were part of the Waffen SS. They told the allied commanders that they didn’t want to be sent
back Stalin because that ment instent death or siberia (death in itself). Or look up Linz Austria were the
Cossak P.O.W. soldiers were placed and latter an English commander gave his word to the Cossack
commander that their is nothing to worry about, he will not send them back to the Russians. Next day he
did and in the afternoon the English had their tea . Of course we can’t forget about the Yalta Conference.
Now that was a democratic soviet move.
So again,why not have these three together? Two liers and a villen side by side. I would say McIntosh
has made a very good decision.

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Aleksejs
Posted: 15 February 2010 02:13 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 26 ]  
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Some of you may remember that at the Normandy invasion of France,
allied soldiers didn"t just take in German P.O.W. soldiers but they as well took in Russian and Ukranian
soldiers who were part of the Waffen SS.

Er, not entirely. A story of Andrey Vlasov springs to mind.

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ogresdels
Posted: 15 February 2010 08:32 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 27 ]  
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Having visited the D-Day Memorial several years ago,I found it rather disappointing . Maybe the placement of Stalin is a mere attempt to create some controversy and interest. However , D-Day was mainly a US and UK operation and the addition of Stalin lacks relevance . This is not the WWII memorial.

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aBlekis
Posted: 17 February 2010 10:26 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 28 ]  
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Aleksej,
During WW2 the Germans had taken so many soviet soldiers as P.O.W’s that a deal, so to speak, was
presented to them by Himmler. They can either stay along with the rest of their compatriots in their
P.O.W. camps and possibly die of starvation or they can help Germany by fighting against the western
allies, if in case the west invades(June6,1944). Not a lot but there was a good number of them that did
comply to the choise. Not that they became pro Hitler, which they were not but at least they will live a
somewhat longer life. So when the invasion started guess what? A good number of these Russians didn’t
even shoot at the allied soldiers. I wonder if thats the reason why so many allied soldiers made it
through? Anyway, I talked to some former Latvian veterans and they told me that when the German
high command was asked by Latvians why not send Latvians to the western front the German response
was, we already sent Slavs to Normandy and they didn’t put up a fight. Why should they? They had no
dislike for the west and any way the west represented ‘DEMOCRACY’.  The same as Latvians thought.

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